Pervez Musharraf: The fall of a dictator



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I respect your ... ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
I respect your views, but i have the right to differ.
I agree with you on few things i.e
previous political governments were corrupt
but it doesn't give the right to have dictatorship(Musharaf). which was corrupt as well.
Solution is democracy. If it doesn't work then again democracy.......and again democracy(even so called democracy).
I think time will tell "who is right and who is wrong"
Array ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
I agree with you.
As i said PPP is beneficiary of NRO that is why Musharaf is still there.
when I say PPP had corruption cases, means its leaders had corruption cases.
Still the worker and the voter of PPP is anti-mush.
Its just the matter of time "PPP has to do what people want". I know zardari will try to delay it as long as he could, but the same time it is hurting him i.e decrease in his popularity. Zardari lacks decision making strength.
solution is ... ( 5 months ago by geomush)
solution is democracy but not just name democracy..check out my feudalism video..wih such things in place there is no chance of democrcy working..anyway time will tell whether my theory of democracy vs real democracy comes ut to be true.
i think you are ... ( 5 months ago by geomush)
i think you are grossly mistaken..ppp supporters dont want musharraf out..in fact their leaders dont want musharraf out..i was watching a show on ary and 2 ppp leaders were proudly claiming that judges etc is not our issue why are we wasting time..country is going down the drain
what is happening media has created a false hype on judges issue + there is hard core support for judges from nawaz supporters (maybe 15 percent)..ppp gets under pressure because of media drama
All this drama was ... ( 5 months ago by geomush)
All this drama was exposed when no more than 30,000 people showed up in supposedly LONG MARCH. A prominent journalist claimed that even those were there for free food.
Ever since i have noticed that judges issue is fading fast. This issue doesnt have morality behind it and thus it will fail.
Nawaz is promoting it because of his agenda against Musharraf while choodary is doing it for personal reasons as he himself is a former pco judge..InshAllah both will fail in their agnedas
Array ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
30,000 ha
i think you missed one zero at the end
I again say "I am not supporter of Nawaz"
"The lawyers Movement" is the movement agianist falsehood and illegal acts commited by Musharaf. Which he himself accept it. ;)
If I say welfare of ... ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
If I say welfare of India is in "ABC" hand.
Do you accept it? simply "NO"
Untill people of that particular country elects "ABC".
Musharaf came into power by force(not democratically) no matter he is good or bad. However, he is as bad as previous politicians.
PPP is a pragmatic ... ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
PPP is a pragmatic party. you will find tons of views contradictory to each other. You and I can use their views they way we want. Hence, the endless debate.
"judges has to be restored there is no second option"
I accept that in ... ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
I accept that in pakistan democracy is not what true democracy should be.
I accept feudal system is affecting it badly.
I am against that feudal system
but the point I want to make is that " does it give the right to have dictatorship(Musharaf)"
If someone forcefully occupy your or mine house and start running it the way he want. Even if people of that house are more prosperous, more liberal or more wealthy under his rule, doesn't prove his occupation valid.
No it does not give ... ( 5 months ago by geomush)
No it does not give anyone right to install dictatorship. I agree.
In Musharraf's case it was not his fault but the fault of Nawaz Sharif who was PM at that time. He tried to reomve army chief while he was "in air". Army took over without Musharraf even knowing and threw him out. the situaion was so bad at that time that people distributed sweets on nawaz's removal.
Difference betwen your view and my view is ideal vs practical.
I see things ... ( 5 months ago by geomush)
I see things practically. Musharraf did what he said
- he improved the economy
- coducted a fair election in which his enemies won
- retired from the army
now not everything happened ideally in his tenure but let me tell you nnothing is ideal..he did the best as one could
First of all let me ... ( 5 months ago by msaqib3033)
First of all let me tell you "I was one of the happy persons, when musharaf took over"
because nawaz was corrupt.
But when you see the larger picture "Musharaf is corrupt as well"
I don't know what actually happened, even you can only speculate.
Even if I agree with you for the sake of argument then
According to constitution primeminister has the right to remove chief of army staff.
"WHO BROKE THE LAW?"
well guyz MUSH is ... ( 5 months ago by wheart01)
well guyz MUSH is not stepping down any soon as US has send ZARDARI and Co. to rescue him.There is no question of PPP impeaching MUSH.despite all this MUSH is a sinking ship and probably a big portion of JIALAS(ppp) will also sind wid.GUD LUCK ZARDARI
lol.."may be for ... ( 3 months ago by LikableDesi)
lol.."may be for another week or so"...nice ending lol
nawaz sharif is a ... ( 3 months ago by TXShahjees)
nawaz sharif is a corrupt politician but not as much as Mr 10 percent ....so do the math.....we know good and bad both now........WTF would we be so stupid that we want Musharaf to go and give theser two MOFOs all pwr.....we the poeple are the ones who are stupid not them.........LONG LIVE ONLY PAKISTAN and may we all have have some brains to support the right action Article 58 2b will come into play soon.............
Ganja badmaash and ... ( 3 months ago by pooopforyou)
Ganja badmaash and 10 % asswipe will sell their mother for money, they dont fuckin care about Pak or the people. Corrupt assholes should be hanged.
Come suck my dick ... ( 3 months ago by alaflamboyant)
Come suck my dick Nawaz Sharif.. It'll give you all the power u want ..
Musharraf is now to ... ( 3 months ago by yahoovisitor)
Musharraf is now to face impeachment from the National Assembly to sack Pakistan's Judiciary and trying to impose his own law which the people rejected in a vast majority in the annual elections 2008. But it seems he is trying to play his last cards as can be seen by PPP's Ameen Fahim declaring PPP as his party and not Zardari's. But this at all cost will turn out to be the last attempt on Musharraf's base as the Judiciary, Pak Army and the politicians are not with him to his required status.
Salaam...,What i ... ( 3 months ago by 11BlueWolf11)
Salaam...,What i hate more than musharraf,are the people who support the fag ..... Pakistan zindabad.
hang musharaff hang ( 3 months ago by masoodpic)
hang musharaff hang
I believe that ... ( 3 months ago by Sarahfatima)
I believe that Musharraf was the worst President of the history of Presidents. He annihilated muslim children in a masjid in Islamabad, destroyed Pakistan's Justice System and put a ban on media just because the media were saying mean things about him, oh booo hoo. Man, it is like a breath of fresh air this news of him getting kicked out of Pakistan. He sold his own people like whores for money. What a tyrant!!!
He was the great ... ( 3 months ago by hamidbutt77)
He was the great and honest leader of pathetic country.The country whose people brought their two most corrupt parties back to power.This is another Shameful period in Pakistan's political history full of corruption and deceive.I started loosing hope on Pakistan.May God save PAKISTAN.
A Pakistani ... ( 3 months ago by yahoovisitor)
A Pakistani newspaper commenting on leader Opposition National Assembly of Pakistan said that now that all the 4 provincial assemblies have visibly given their vote for Musharraf's impeachment if Ch Sb thinks it an inhumane action and insists on impeachment of all politicians it must be his duty to take this banner in hand and after Musharraf's impeachment go forward and have all political leaders impeached. This will bring prosperity to Pakistan and be a positive step towards ending corruption.
Four Army Dictators ... ( 3 months ago by yahoovisitor)
Four Army Dictators have ruled Pakistan for a period of about 34 yrs. But neither Yahya Khan, nor Zia Ul Haq & nor Musharraf learnt from the mistakes committed by their elders by repeating them one after the other. Result is before you. It has been seldom that a Dictator has ever learnt any such lesson from history or devils around him mostly lead to his exile if path is not changed. Pakistan if wants to survive must account for and impeach Musharraf as per charge sheet issued against him.



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